[Ferro List] Fw: optimal usage of materials

Kosta Dellios dellioskosta at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 15 13:41:36 MST 2008


Aloha Peter,

During my university time at HPU Oahu I traveled to your wonderful big island a couple of times.  Its the only place close by that can cure the rock fever!  I love Hawaii. Thanks for helping out on my questions.

First let me go into your questions 

On Jan 15, 2008,  Peter Epperson wrote:
>Are you going to dig up your clay soil and use the excavation for the
 form 
>of the pool itself? If you have the right type of clay soil you may be
 able 
>to carve it and do the laminated ferro technique right over the clay
 walls. 

On Jan 15, 2008,  Peter Epperson wrote:

>But as
 much as I love ferrocement and thin shell concrete, I almost always go for
 rebar and 
>thick walls for pools. Mostly it's about going quicker. My labor costs
 more 
>than materials and it's faster. Also things like skimmers, returns and 
>lights are more easilly installed in a thick wall pool. Let me rephrase
 
>that, it's WAY easier to install those things in a thicker wall pool.
 

Good to know, as it stands right now I'll probably use a combined method that results in thick wall but incorporate FC

On Jan 15, 2008,  Peter Epperson wrote:
>Unless your foam panel has steel in it like
 a 
>Tri-D panel, I would probably pass on it and go for the full 4 layers
 of 
>mesh. I think it would be easier to work with, it depends on your
 method of 
>laminating the foam to the ferro on either side. 

I was planning on casting the panels onto flat molds using the
laminated method.  The surface towards the bottom of the mold was to
become the internal surface of the pool.  I was planning on laminating
the first two layers and then simply pushing the foam into the mud and
if needed slightly weigh it to have even pressure on the whole surface
and ensure good bonding. Afterwards I was to continue in a similar
fashion with the other two layer .



On Jan 15, 2008,  Peter Epperson wrote:

>How many layers of
 mesh you 
>need would depend on lots of things. Most importantly, what is the size
 and 
>shape of your pool? 

For ease of use and since it fits in my garden better i was going to do a traditional rectangular style pool.  Dimension probably around 12*6 meter or 20*40ft. 



On Jan 15, 2008,  Peter Epperson wrote:


>And you were asking about chlorine in pools. It won't get to the steel
 if 
>you've done your job right and don't have any cracks. The salt water
 system 
>is still chlorine. Salt is converted to chlorine and then reverts back
 to 
>salt in an endless loop. Go with ozone. It's the best way to purify
 your 
>pool. Get a corona discharge ozone generator.

Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it. 





Kosta




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