[Ferro List] Re; FC Drivel
Peter Payne
tfe at sover.net
Thu May 1 20:15:43 MDT 2008
The bedrock tends to have trickles of water emerging from it and running
down over the surface. I think I have to give this water somewhere to
go; I am intending to place a 6-inch (at least) layer of drainage stone
first. I already have outside concrete/FC walls going down to bedrock
around most of the perimeter as well as a central pillar; I am
approaching this as a"room inside a room" structure. The actual living
space will be built as a self-contained box, sitting on the insulated
thermal mass, and the space between the inner box and the outer walls
filled with insulation--probably foamEPScrete--with as little thermal
bridging s possible. I like the idea of using an inner layer of denser
foamed concrete, and an outer layer of almost all EPS, so the massier
part is on the inside and the lighter on the outside, but I'm not quite
certain how I'd do this. Perhaps a temporary plywood form to place the
foamcrete. Finish the outside as you suggested with fiberglass/acrylic
stucco (is that EIFS? Any particular product or component mix you
recommend?)
All the best,
Peter
PS: just bought what should be a lifetime supply of e-lath: 1000 sheets
at $7.50 a sheet. I still have a lot of #3 rebar as well as galvanized
zigzag block bond, which I find great for sculpting.
Doug Lacy wrote:
> "A concern
> is thermal break from the rock--as rock conducts pretty well, and there
> is exposed rock at several places around the site, I think the rock will
> get pretty cold in the winter. So broad footings incorporating
> insulation may be necessary. Maybe a section of relatively high-density
> cellullar. As the land is very sloped (approx 4.5/1), the floors of the
> rooms will be terraced; I am thinking that the wedge-shaped space left
> between the floor and the bedrock could be filled with thermal storage
> mass; this of course would need to be insulated from the rock itself.
> Peter"
>
> I don't think you have to go very wide to put a heavy wall on 2 inch blue EPS dow board. It is 25 psi. To make a solid connect to the bedrock, I would grout in short pieces so you have a good load transfer. I like the idea of using the wedge shaped area as a heat sink. Maybe you can put down some one inch EPS dow board on the slope, and then fill over with some super low density cellular so it will level up perfect. The low density will function well as a different kind of heat sink, radiating more slowly, while boosting the thermal block provided by the blue foam. As you approach your finished floor heights for your terraced interior, maybe pour a cheap mix with some heavy stuff in it for a larger heat storage capacity near your thin radiant slab.
>
> Sheathing the entire exterior with EPS for insulation is possible and it will give you the needed cold climate insulation while helping the structure store inside energy. You may have to do small pieces.
> Doug
>
>
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